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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2011, 01:29:28 PM »
Hi,
I've been using teleport for a few years and really love it, thanks.
I'm posting because would like to sign up for the betatest if possible, and would like to know what I have to do to participate.
Thanks
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Re: Abandoned? Yes, clearly.
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2011, 11:04:44 AM »
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Clearly this project has been abandoned so I think it only makes sense the code be released to open source.

Why do you consider this project "abandoned"?


I consider it abandoned because I can read and do simple math:

Quote from: "jul"
Fri May 02, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Next version: teleport 1.1

2011-02-09 - 2008-05-02 = 2.8 years

At this rate Duke Nukem Forever will be release before version 1.1.


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...but with free software don't think there is any room to complain... so complaining about the project being abandoned is something you really don't have much of a right to complain about IMO.


Why do you think I'm complaining, where did I say I wasn't thankful, what does the number of my posts have to do with anything (typical newbie thinks because they've posted on a board more times than someone else they are somehow magically superior to those new to a board), and where did I demand instantaneous updates?

I merely stated the fact that if a product is not updated in years then it has been abandoned. There have been no updates in years. Therefore the app is abandoned. Why are you so hostile to facts?

You seem to be doing a lot of transference. This is clearly how YOU feel since I said nothing of the sort. You should really stop pushing your feelings onto innocuous posts by others. It's creepy IMO. And stop being so hostile to new posters. You're creepy, hostile attitude will drive people away. Maybe you need to take a break from the Internet and go outside.
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Re: Abandoned? Yes, clearly.
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2011, 09:07:34 PM »
I think your awesome math skills might be exceeded by your inability to get all the facts to support the claims of your abandonment theory. I don't think your theory is gonna hold any water:

The fact is that the last release of teleport is version 1.0.2 and is dated Aug 27, 2009 - so Jul has released an update of an already released version in parallel to working on the next version. Seems hardly like abandonment to me, but perhaps you can think of a way to spin it to support your theory of abandonment with a few more claims of creepiness and superiority.

The fact is that there have been three different beta releases of the next version of teleport 1.1 that I know about:

build 896 - dated May 3, 2009
build 914 - dated July 10, 2009
build 997 - dated March 23, 2010

There might have been others, but don't have any personal knowledge of them. All these are after the date you cherry picked out of a post that Jul made when he originally announced the intention of releasing another new version and then tried to use it to justify your claim of abandonment. While it's quite understandable you would not be aware of these dates unless you were enrolled in the beta program, you didn't even attempt to find out any other facts before you declared the project abandoned. And the build ID numbers indicate a lot of intervening versions that got built but not released for reasons only Jul would know but in any event indicate to me LOT'S of work going on between beta releases.

The last bug reports I've seen are from just a few months ago - database is available to anyone in the beta program, but is offline right now so can't quote you an exact date. People are still joining this forum - more than 80 in the last six months. So it seems like more people are becoming aware of teleport all the time and joining the forum to learn more or search for answers to questions or look for help. Most everyone anyway - notable exceptions are ladyyaya who seems to be using the general forum for reposting totally irrelevant topics or practicing her English composition skills and you, who want to declare the project abandoned. Perhaps Duke Nukem has a forum with actively participating members - I've no idea but something tells me you might.

Hardly a dead project it would seem to me.

Anyway, think you should make responses based on facts - not your opinion of the facts or inability to look deeper. There is a big difference, but somehow I'm guessing this concept is gonna exceed the capacity of your ability to understand.

You're the one who needs to go outside and chill. All I did was disagree with you about how the project didn't seem abandoned to me and wonder what gives you the right to make such a declaration with so little participation. Complaining about the state of teleport without having done much to help out seems to be your crutch of choice, so don't think you have any room to complain no matter how much you claim otherwise. When did you ever answer a question that someone else asked on this forum - NEVER. You joined the forum in May of 2010 - so in over 8 months the extent of your contribution is one post with

1. thank you to Jul for his efforts, and
2. description of a problem of teleport not working with two monitors (and no one else has responded that it happens to them - so perhaps this is a problem exclusive to you - in fact I just looked and it was me that responded saying that this feature works fine and always had as I have multiple monitors on both systems I use teleport on and have never had similar problems with any version of teleport that I had used, and I made a couple of suggestions which you never responded to - maybe you did what I suggested and it started working??), and
3. along with a suggestion to open source the teleport project (which I would like to see also, but that's Jul's decision not anyone else's)

And another post with one declaration that teleport project has been abandoned - just two minutes after making the open source suggestion (guess two minutes is over your limit for a response from the developer).

And then one more post to claim I'm creepy and claim to be superior. Don't feel any of your statements have much to do with anything other than an attempt at getting Jul to open source his program. Guess you feel that anyone who disagrees with you is creepy and superior and has transference issues? Since you're so aware of transference issues I think that might really be the source of your issues - imaginary problems that don't really exist except in your own mind. Think you're the one living in the land of imaginary problems and goblins - how in the world can you declare the teleport project is abandoned and then get defensive and insulting when someone disagrees with your opinion? Did you honestly believe that no one on this forum would dispute your claim? I'm perfectly happy to let everyone else judge the validity and hostility of your posts and mine, and who is and isn't creepy.

I honestly can't understand your holier-than-thou attitude about your self-proclamation about teleport being abandoned. Maybe you're psychic and can read Jul's mind and know what the future will bring. I don't have that talent so am quite impressed that you and your crystal ball have blessed us with this prediction of the future.

But I've chosen to take Jul at his word that he's busy and am guessing that he doesn't have the time he once did to devote to the effort of getting teleport's next version out the door to everyone else and do it for free so that everyone else can benefit from the effort - even whiners like you. I'm glad of what he's done to date and very thankful. I would guess that since he's now a full time developer at Apple that the time he has available to the teleport project is a lot less than than he needs to get the next version of teleport out the door. I'm happy to wait till he does, and am quite puzzled at your inability to also wait. Guess your two-minute limit waiting period has been exceeded once again.

The software works pretty good the way it is, with a few minor bugs, and the beta works even better. Am sure that a lot of people use both every day and are glad they have it - I sure am. There are things that have been suggested that would make it a better program, and some have been put into the next version already and more are in the works, and others that many would hope for but Jul has not said one way or the other if he is seriously considering them. But that's his right as the developer. He's the one that has to do the work so think that it's perfectly correct that he be the one to decide what is and what isn't gonna be in the program.

But if you want to declare the project abandoned, and rant and rave at someone who disagrees with you, I'm happy to let you rant on, and will be more than happy to reply with more facts about how mistaken I think you are and why.

Why don't you just write another version of teleport and give it away for free and see what the world thinks of it, rather than waste time complaining about someone else not doing it fast enough for you?

Sure sounds like a complaint to me when you declare the project is abandoned - two minutes after suggesting that teleport be open sourced. Sure sounds like a complaint to me when you compare teleport to Duke Nukem (the king of vapor ware). Obviously you're the confused and hostile one - you don't even know the difference between vapor ware that has never had a release and teleport which has had several over the last 5 years. Sure sounds to me like you're the hostile and creepy one when you have such a response to someone who disagrees with your lame theory of abandonment.

Have a nice day ;-)
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 01:55:51 AM »
I would also love to get in on the latest beta if at all possible.

Thanks much.
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Re: Abandoned? Yes, clearly.
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2011, 11:04:06 PM »
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I think your awesome...


Why thanks, I am pretty awesome aren't I? That's all I read because you are clearly a troll but I did notice you misspelled "you're."
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Re: Abandoned? Yes, clearly.
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2011, 11:05:05 PM »
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I think your awesome...


Why thanks, I am pretty awesome aren't I? That's all I read because you are clearly a troll but I did notice you misspelled "you're."
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Re: Abandoned? Yes, clearly.
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2011, 11:05:49 PM »
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I think your awesome...


Why thanks, I am pretty awesome aren't I? That's all I read because you are clearly a troll.
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Re: Abandoned? Yes, clearly.
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2011, 11:06:17 PM »
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I think your awesome


Why thanks, I am pretty awesome aren't I? That's all I read because you are clearly a troll.
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2011, 11:08:27 PM »
Oops, looks like there's a problem with the forum. Sorry for the reposts. Hey, since I have more posts now that makes me better!
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2011, 02:19:17 PM »
f the Macs will not connect to one another through teleport double check their firewall settings and make sure they're both on the same network. You can position the shared monitors however you want
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« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2011, 03:40:40 AM »
Looks like there is some issues with Lion, i'm running 11A444d and the basic functionality works fine, i can control my other mac via teleport ( running 10.6 ) but when i move my cursor back to my primary machine my cursor doesn't reappear, its there, just not drawing, if i do any kind of multitouch gesture, like activating spaces or dashboard or expose the cursor comes back, its an ok workaround for now. I know Lion isn't out yet so i don't expect full compatibility but i just thought i'd bring it to your attention exactly what issues i'm seeing currently.
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« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2011, 03:40:55 AM »
Looks like there is some issues with Lion, i'm running 11A444d and the basic functionality works fine, i can control my other mac via teleport ( running 10.6 ) but when i move my cursor back to my primary machine my cursor doesn't reappear, its there, just not drawing, if i do any kind of multitouch gesture, like activating spaces or dashboard or expose the cursor comes back, its an ok workaround for now. I know Lion isn't out yet so i don't expect full compatibility but i just thought i'd bring it to your attention exactly what issues i'm seeing currently.
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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2011, 01:19:54 PM »
post a beta link for 1.1 - latest build.

i donated 20 bucks for development, lets get crackin!

also, i can confirm the LION issues, the workaround for multitouch works as well.   anyone with 1.1 latest build throw it up on a fileshare,  no point in beta testing a app solo, im sure we've all asked to get included in the list but im not seeing much activity here so thats to be expected.   emailed as well..   radio silence.
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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2011, 10:35:06 PM »
This is a product that needs to be actively developed and sold on the Mac App store, you would make a killing there.

teleport has worked great for me until recently when I switched my router for an airport extreme for some reason.. but would love to see this actively developed.
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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2011, 11:38:34 PM »
Hey,

just wanted to give a quick update.

Although it's true that development is not at its highest, it's NOT a dead project, and I plan to continue developing it, in a way or the other.

With Lion being released soon, I'd like to release version 1.1 to support it and add some new features too. I was very busy lately but I should have a little bit more time in the coming months for teleport. FYI, the current build number on my trunk in 1006, so there has been a little bit of work since the last released pre-release (huh!).

That being said, open-sourcing it is an option I'm really considering, but for reasons I can't comment, it might not be possible. If it was, and I'll check if it is, that's probably the way I'll go - but after version 1.1 anyway. I'd still keep developping the project though, I would not just release it in the wild to abandon it like a little pet.

If you're a developer and would like to participate in developping teleport, please send me an email. I'd like to know if people are interested in that or not.

Also, if you want to beta-test it, you can send me an email and i'll be happy to give you instructions on how to procede. Please do not post pre-release publicly, since they're not ready for public usage (but there's no NDA, you can talk about it ^^).

Thanks.
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